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I tell ya...I just dunno. I was over at my good friend "E's" (Eclectablog's) site and he's posted a photo of Barack Obama being hugged by two women with a tag-line saying it's a "Obama Sandwich." Now I admit that it was humorous and I always enjoy "E,s" humor and at least it wasn't a photo of the guy hugging babies. But while perusing the comments I noticed a recurring theme amongst not only the commentors but with "E" as well. And that is that while Obama speaks so eloquently, and speaks of all of these big changes he wants to make etc...they're not making any effort whatsoever to check into this guy a little deeper.

I think that Barack Obama really has a lot of folks truly hoodwinked. I mean the guy can say anything about anyone and you all just swoon all over him like he's a Frank Sinatra or an Elvis Presley, never questioning anything. Instead of making light of these women...maybe doing some analyzing and questioning of the things he's saying about the voters that he so dearly needs would be in better order. Now...I'm a Texan currently residing in Pennsylvania where both of the democratic candidates are now campaigning, and where both candidates are desperate to win because of the number of delegates to be gained. In other words....PA is a huge deal for them.

Recently at one of Obama's speeches, and speaking about rural and small town Pennsylvanians, he had this to say, “You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years. … And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations,” And then casually explains it away that he "chose his words badly." Well Obama fans...this is not the only time that he's made racist and inflammatory remarks and with what is seemingly like no regard at all for who and what he's talking about! And still you swoon....

He is losing voters here, and quickly. Every night since this has come out our local news affiliates go out to report on location at the very sites that Obama, and Clinton go to do their handshaking, baby kissing and to serve the customers their dinners and chat with them about their "bitterness", and why they pray to their guns and go to church. At these same places and talking to the same people the same question is invariably asked...."Are you going to vote for Barack Obama?" And the same answer comes out each and every time, No! And I need to add that these are the very same folks that were once going to vote for Barack Obama. They too were once those who swooned...they too were once folks that were taken in by his so-called "eloquent" speeches and his charisma and his charm and his dashing good looks. But you combine his alarming association with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, and his oh-so poor responses to that along with his most recent remarks....and they're out, that's it! These are people now destined to vote for Hillary Clinton...or, maybe even John McCain! But they stopped swooning and started to do some thinking

I would never presume to try to change someones vote, or to convert them from their party or belief system, but man-oh-man, I would definitely want you to start watching better and to definitely start listening much closer. He's being called an "elitist" and that he's "out of touch with rural America", and that he doesn't seem to "get" the Second Amendment, and I happen to believe these things the more he talks. I won't add in any of the growing number of quotes being said about the guy because the list is too long...go look for yourself. But the man is a socialist who can't be truthful about where he gets his money from, yet he's real clear about how he wants to get your money. He has absolutely no glue about how to deal with the military, much less terrorism, yet he'll end the war in 100 days and keep us safe from terrorism....how he has yet to say. And he'll somehow put an end to "business as usual in Washington", knowing that almost every presidential hopeful has said that and failed miserably at it. I can't figure that one out....unless he wants to give Washington back to it's rightful owners, us, in which case I'm all for it!

I'm just saying stop swooning long enough to do some serious research and thinking without taking in any of the media's Obama-loving hype. Take a good look at what he's done to his former voters here in PA. and then do some wondering on how that's going to affect his former voters around the country. And then do some serious thinking about who's money it is that he wants to use when he goes about making all of these, "Changes We Can Believe In."

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At 04:57, April 15, 2008, texican said:
	I've already decided that I will not vote for the candidate of either party. I'd rather cast my vote for some nobody running as an independent. My vote may not "count" but it'll reflect my will or conscience or whatever... Add Comment \| Link \| \|

At 09:03, April 15, 2008, Eclectablog said:

He is losing voters here, and quickly...

Eh? Uh, that would be wrong:

Or check out Rasmussen HERE, HERE, or HERE.

He's holding steady, taking only a tiny "hit", actually. No other way to read the polls. A few cherry-picked comments in the media don't change that, I'm afraid. Turns out that most voters are actually intelligent enough to realize that many people who are hurting economically ARE bitter. And they're able to understand that when Obama says something like "clings", he's talking about people using other issues (like guns or religion or homophobia) to make their electoral choices because they feel like politicians generally can't be held accountable for their promises based on past behavior.

That's a stark contrast to your characterizing us as a bunch of naive, stupid lemmings, blindly following Obama off the cliff while he orates.

I find your comments insulting actually. You've said repeatedly that our appreciation of Obama is only because he speaks well when, in fact, you have absolutely NO idea how much reading and research and listening we've done to evaluate the candidates. You presume we're being led by the nose.

Actually, we're being led by the brain. See you in November.

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At 09:14, April 15, 2008, Patty said:
	Well I hate to say this, but so far none of them have done much for me. Let's face it, they all make promises which they usually can't keep. Add Comment \| Link \| \|

At 07:49, April 15, 2008, Aielman said:
	You might want to recheck Rasmussen again. It's not a tiny hit. Add Comment \| Link \| \|

At 10:41, April 15, 2008, Eclectablog said:
	Less than 5% difference than a couple of weeks ago = tiny "hit" for something she's spent now five days trumpeting to whoever will listen to her. If she wins by 5% or 9% doesn't really matter. She needs far bigger wins than that to get the nomination. Add Comment \| Link \| \|

At 02:02, April 16, 2008, Rubicon said:

You want to know what's insulting man! The fact that first..you do not read what the hell I write, second, you misconstrue, misinterpret and mis-characterize damn near anything I say about Obama especially...and thirdly? This post was not about polls or anything like them, and your words pretty much negated the words thoughts and feelings of liberals such as yourself. I almost wish I could find them to tell them!

You are just so completely unwilling to look past your own backyard on this one! This guy is truly defining himself in a way that should be giving you cause to LOOK for a change. Otherwise you DO appear to be being led by the nose. These idiotic polls you so love to refer to do not reflect his current standings in Montana, Indiana and PA!! And not to fear...it's not over yet! Not once did you even glance at what he said about the people here, that actually includes folks all over the good 'ole US of Freakin' A!

You're totally off the mark on this one bro...you totally missed my entire point and instead found a way to put your liberal slant on it!
Barack Obama offended a whole lot of people here, and indeed across the nation. And all I asked you to do was take a look at what he said and has been saying!!!!! Instead? You refer to useless and senseless polls to try and back him up! Again man....you missed my point and in the process belittled my words and thoughts. Maybe not by intention....but in the end the insult lies when you, and again, don't-read, misconstrue, mischaracterize and misinterpret what I was writing about.
So...were you so in the middle of a swoon that you couldn't see?

The man is opening mouth and inserting both feet....and it doesn't trouble you even slightly?? Your party right now is in such disarray is has to be troubling you at least some. I heard one Democratic strategist tonight say that this year in the Dems campaign is the stuff of a Cecil B. DeMille movie....it's the best he's seen ever in his lifetime! And he didn't mean this in a good way.

You say: "I'll see you in November" I say: I bet I'll be seein' ya long before then!"

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At 05:42, April 16, 2008, Eclectablog said:

I absolutely read (and watched) what he said. When asked at a fundraiser in Marin County, California, how he was going to get people in Pennsylvania (who have been, until now, overwhelmingly for Clinton) to vote for him, he said that people there were tired of politicians coming around and making promises that they never end up keeping. And that these people are tired of it and bitter about it and so, instead, they cling to their churches and religion, because government has left them behind.

His point was that, because politicians can't be trusted to keep their promises, people choose other topics on which to base their votes, like religion or gun owners rights. He used the word "cling" which seems to be the thing that all these zillions of people were offended by and, frankly, I think the media (and YOU!) have completely overblown it and over-analyzed it and people just really AREN'T that offended BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT HE MEANT!

Yes, yes, in a 24-hour news cycle world where campaigns begin over a year before the election, every single candidate will misspeak and choose a bad word now and again. That's to be expected. It's when they keep on making the same mistake that you really start to wonder. Like McCain and his inability to tell the difference between Sunnis and Shias or Clinton's repeating the lie about the Bosnia trip.

I think Obama's opponents are so desperate to find a fingerhold on him because he's such an appealing candidate to so many people, that you'll grasp at any tiny thing you can find and blow that shit up until it's the size of Illinois.

Call me a starry-eyed dreamer but I say the voters are smarter than that. And people like you were never going to vote for Obama anyway so your opinions on the matter hardly matter in the scope of things.

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At 09:51, April 16, 2008, Aielman said:

Less than 5% difference than a couple of weeks ago = tiny "hit" for something she's spent now five days trumpeting to whoever will listen to her.

20pt difference after being even is a big hit in a game where 5 pts makes or breaks a candidate.

She needs far bigger wins than that to get the nomination.

She doesn't need to win. She just needs to get close. If she does, they'll be in court over Michigan and Florida up until August, and then you'll have another convention like the dems did in 1968.

Then, win lose or draw, the dems will be hemorhaging votes left right and center. We have 3 1/2 more months of Clinton and Obama wasting their campaign funds fighting each other, and using up the patience of the electorate while they tear flesh from one another.

I personally can't stand McCain, but I'm gonna laugh my ass off and break my diet to drink a tall glass of fine single malt in his honor if the democrats shoot themselves in the foot so badly that they blow a statistically impossible to lose election.

Call me a starry-eyed dreamer but I say the voters are smarter than that.

Yeah? Then how did Bush get re-elected?

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At 12:49, April 16, 2008, Eclectablog said:

Yeah? Then how did Bush get re-elected?

Yeah, that's a very good question. But, as I said, I'm a dreamer ;)

There's only one poll that shows Clinton with a 20 point lead in Pennsylvania and it's by a group that has a history of very bad (inaccurate) polling. Here's some others that show that she's holding onto her lead but only by the same kind of margins (or lower) than before the whole "clinging" bullshit. This one shows only a very slim margin, less than before the recent kerfluffle.

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At 01:19, April 16, 2008, Rubicon said:

"he said that people there were tired of politicians coming around and making promises that they never end up keeping."

And he's different how? The man has to know that he's doing the same damn thing. He cannot change Washington anymore that I can convert bin-Laden to Christianity. When I said he has people hoodwinked it's true. For all his seeming faults at least McCain isn't going around making false promises...or promises he knows he can't keep. He knows how Washington works.

People everywhere are tired of politicians making the same old and tired promises..not just PA.

"He used the word "cling" which seems to be the thing that all these zillions of people were offended by and, frankly, I think the media (and YOU!) have completely overblown it and over-analyzed it and people just really AREN'T that offended BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT HE MEANT"

So these zillions of people you speak of....what are they? Rubber biscuits? Those zillions are offended, and with good reason. And we've all heard his oh-so lame excuse or reasoning for what he said...his "chose his words badly" garbage. It's no different from his lame-ass excuse for Wright. And speaking of Wright, the idiot still can't keep his idiotic mouth shut!

It's about time that the sorry-ass media got onto Obama....I mean that for a while there it was quite the double standard. Or rather, Clinton's beloved liberal media appeared to have really turned on her and just fawned all over Obama not doing anything at all to expose his crap while getting after Hillary like stink on shit.
They still drool all over the guy even thru the Wright affair and now this. And you know just as well as I do that if it were McCain that had insulted the nation....YOU and the MEDIA would be all over it. Furthermore...this isn't going away whether you like it or not.
And if you're trying to excuse the lengthy campaigning for the God-awful things being said and done....well buddy, all I can say is that your liberal party asked for it. And something else...the things that Obama has said, and dare I say, will say, is how he truly feels. He is out of touch with middle America. In the same vein as Michael Dukakis and Jimmy Carter, oh, and lets not forget the ridiculous John Kerry!

Somehow, somehow...in your mind people aren't that offended, but my friend, people are and that's one major reason that this issue won't go away.

"Like McCain and his inability to tell the difference between Sunnis and Shias"

Huh? Wha.... "I think Obama's opponents are so desperate to find a fingerhold on him"

Man you talk about grasping! Obama is the guy who wants to sit down and talk with the leaders of Hamas...just like what Carter is fixin' to do! Obama is the guy who wants to sit down and have a chat with freakin' Ahmadinejad...the very terrorist president that's killing American's! What in the HELL is his, and your thinking???!!!!

Oh yeah...McCain knows very well the difference between the Sunnis and the She-ites. Do you? Do I? Hell no, and furthermore, McCain is not so ignorant and recklessly stupid as to believe for a second that he/we can have any kind of meaningful dialog with terrorists such as these, whose only desire, and burning at that, is to see us all dead, or converted to Islam, or slaves to them.

Man...you say you read? Read some of the Koran, read some of the writings and teachings of Muhammad. And then tell me if you think we can talk to these people. Your bloody hero is out of his cotton-pickin' mind if he thinks he can talk with these people....and do you think that the majority of American's would go for that?? You might....but you'll be in a very, very small minority.

"And people like you were never going to vote for Obama anyway so your opinions on the matter hardly matter in the scope of things."

Dudeman....man....buddy...bro..pal. That's like the third, fourth or fifth time you've said that or something just like that. You're saying that my/our opinions don't count? That since we're not going to vote for someone anyway that we should just shut-up and go away? Spoken like a true-blue liberal....there's tolerance and inclusiveness for ya!

Because I'm not going to vote for the same person as you and because I don't have the same beliefs as you I'm stupid, I'm wrong and my opinions, thoughts and beliefs simply don't count...they don't matter. That goes beyond fucked-up mister.

Let me do this another way:

"And people like you"

People like me. I'm somehow beneath you, or ignorant. Or maybe because some things in my life are different from yours it means I just don't care. Maybe "people like you" should figure out some sort of way to rid yourselves of "people like me"....and that would include me of course.

"so your opinions on the matter hardly matter in the scope of things."

Well...I don't matter, I don't count for anything. I shouldn't have an opinion because it's not like yours, it doesn't follow in your footsteps. I hardly matter.
I guess us people should just go out and shoot ourselves...be done with it.

Again...spoken like a tried and true-blue liberal. No tolerance for anything outside of your belief system. No inclusiveness because we don't think or believe the same on everything that you do. Talk about hypocrisy at it's finest. You and Barack Obama will get along just fine....

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At 02:13, April 16, 2008, Opinionnation said:
	It is obvious who the guy is. But then again this is the Democratic Party we are talking about. They elected a leader of the KKK to third in line to the presidency and they rally behind a drunk who killed a woman a fled the scene... so Add Comment \| Link \| \|

At 02:24, April 16, 2008, Eclectablog said:

So these zillions of people you speak of....what are they? Rubber biscuits?

Dude. I was being sarcastic. The fact is there just aren't that many offended people out there.

The fact the you refer to the Liberal Media in the same breath that you talk about how they are attacking Hillary Clinton makes me laugh. Don't you see how ridiculous that is? The fact is the media goes after weaknesses in EVERY candidate for the most part if they think it's news. Why do you think we're on Day Six of this whole "clinging" thing???

the God-awful things being said and done

Oh, stop. That is such a gross exaggeration. Gimme a break.

Oh yeah...McCain knows very well the difference between the Sunnis and the She-ites.

Apparently you haven't been keeping up with the news. McCain has said several things in the last month that indicate that he's muddy on the issue. He has suggested that they are somehow affiliated with their arch enemies, the Shia, and has had to be corrected by people like Lieberman in the middle of a speech.

How you managed to bring the Koran into this argument and, once again, condemn Muslims as a group because of their belief in the Koran, I'll never understand...

Dudeman....man....buddy...bro..pal. That's like the third, fourth or fifth time you've said that or something just like that. You're saying that my/our opinions don't count?

Oh stop pretending to be dumb. You know what I mean. When I say "people like you" I mean uber right wing Republicans. You are never ever ever going to vote for Obama and you aren't going to be involved in any way in his being selected as the Democratic nominee so, yes, your running him down right now is meaningless. When we get to the Big Show next fall, then what you say has more meaning. But my opinion on McCain prior to his getting the nomination and your opinion on Obama now aren't meaningful because they aren't elections either of us are going to be participating in.

Well...I don't matter, I don't count for anything. I shouldn't have an opinion because it's not like yours, it doesn't follow in your footsteps. I hardly matter.
I guess us people should just go out and shoot ourselves...be done with it.

Sheezo. Drama much? You know that's not what I meant. Lordy...

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At 02:52, April 16, 2008, LauriesAsylum said:
	I think we will be in trouble no matter who wins the election, to tell you the truth. That's how I feel about this election, sad but true. Add Comment \| Link \| \|

At 03:31, April 16, 2008, Aielman said:
	That's a fact. This election is a choice between a shit sandwich with or without the crusts cut off. Add Comment \| Link \| \|

At 04:45, April 16, 2008, texican said:
	Amen to that. Add Comment \| Link \| \|

At 10:37, April 17, 2008, lisalisabobisa said:
	I agree with Rene's first comment, that's where I'm at too.....And I don't think Obama is anywhere near ugly, but I think he's far from dashing... Add Comment \| Link \| \|