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  • American's In Opposition And In Favor....

    Posted: 09:47, February 6, 2009



    We all know how I feel about Polls, but I found this little tidbit from a recent Gallop Poll interesting and relevant, especially in light of all the controversy over this ultra-ridiculous stimulus package.


    "Fifty-eight percent of Americans said they disagreed with the president's decision to give overseas funding to family planning organizations that provide abortions, according to the survey taken between Friday and Sunday. Thirty-five percent supported it.

    Obama signed an order Jan. 23 reversing the "Mexico City policy" -- a prohibition first implemented by Ronald Reagan, which forbade the U.S. government from sending money to overseas family-planning organizations that perform abortions or offer abortion counseling. The ban, which was lifted when Bill Clinton took office, was later re-established by George W. Bush in 2001.

    The poll also found that more Americans -- 50 percent to 44 percent --oppose the president's decision to close the Guantanamo Bay prison for terror suspects within in a year."


    OK....so lets spread the liberal pro-choice agenda overseas, right? I think not, if Roe V. Wade has to be upheld, lets keep it here in the USA.

    So....someone tell me just where the hell we're supposed to house these terrorists? Here in our Federal Prisons? Oh sure, but what would become of all of the special privileges they receive now at Gitmo Bay? I know one thing for sure, no more $12.00 ,(a meal), special diets for them.That's opposed to the $2.50 meals that the Marines guarding and protecting them get! Oh....and hmmm, how long do you suppose the so-called lesser known terrorists would last if put out in general population? Which is probably where they should be anyway.



    "Seventy-four percent favored Obama's position to lift interrogation techniques on prisoners, while 76 percent said they agreed with the decision to name special envoys to the Middle East, Afghanistan and Pakistan."


    No surprise there. But it really doesn't matter since we've been circumventing the "interrogation technique" thing for some time now, by housing these terrorist suspects in foreign countries that are friendly to the US and don't have statutes like that.


    "Seventy-six percent also said the agreed with Obama's decision to tighten ethics rules for administration officials. And 66 percent said they agree with his effort to make it easier for workers to sue for pay discrimination."


    Oh? Obama is tightening ethics rules for his administration? Really? That's funny....he's already got one criminal tax evader confirmed into his cabinet. Timothy Geithner, your new Treasury Secretary, you know, that man that handles all our money. Yep....those grand 'ole liberal Dems buying his cute little story that it was all a mistake made by his "Turbo-Tax" software. And they just skimmed right over that one and just confirmed him right on in!

    And Tom Dashle, another Obama pick for Health and Human Services Secretary, and another criminal tax evader that was going to be confirmed, but very wisely bowed out.....well, 'nuff said 'bout that. Except to say that that is the smartest thing that Dashle has EVER done!

    There's more coming down the pike, but those are the two that for now get the highlights. So....so much for ethics reform huh? Well Mr. Prez. kinda off to a rocky start wouldn't ya say?

    And oh....aren't we getting pretty sick and tired of listening to liberals cry "failed policies of the last eight years", and "Obama inherited this big 'ole deficit?' Part of that is actually true, but, it looks like Barack Obama wants to add another trillion to what we have now. So then what will they cry? Hell....I can't even count to a trillion!!


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    At 01:33, February 6, 2009, jme2007 said:
    I agree with John Stewart who said....

    "Republicans seem scared of what's going to happen..... blissfully unaware of what has already happened"

    Stewart and Colbert 2016!


    At 02:39, February 6, 2009, dantesinferno said:
    Odd. Is the American media really so out of the loop, that all you seem to worry about what will happen to Guantanamo detainees upon release. Scary, spooky prisoners, coming to a prison near you... or not.
    I know our secretary of foreign affairs has already agreed to take in as much as 40 detainees, if we should be asked. That's just for us, you know. The tiny little country that you have so lovingly mocked over the years, when possible. I wonder how many detainees countries like France of UK will take, when the time comes for us to once again clean up after you.

    Still, I do continue to admire the way you "support the president". Reminds me of the way Mr E and I supported Bush when he was in charge.


    At 07:39, February 6, 2009, Aielman said:
    The problem I have with the choice is that they plan to try the detainees. Except for a very small number of them, we don't have the jurisdiction. They were caught on foreign soil doing things that we have no jurisdiction to try them for. Putting them on trial sets a very dangerous international precedent. It would be like Iran snatching up a US soldier in Iraq and then trying him for crimes against Islam. They have no right, and the entire world community would condemn them for it.

    Well the US putting some guy we caught in Afghanistan on trial for breaking a US law amounts to the same thing.

    And we can't just let them go either. For the most part, most of the countries they come from don't want them back. Those that will take them are likely to torture them for real. Waterboarding is going to seem like a gentle shower by comparison to what any Saudis or Jordanians will have waiting for them when we return them to their home countries.

    My money is on most of them quietly ending up in Florence at the ADMAX, without trial after much fanfare of a few being let go and Gitmo being "closed down."

    Time will tell.


    At 07:53, February 6, 2009, DeeJay said:
    Rubi Dubi Doo, I've missed your blog. I have to admit, sometimes I just want to reach through the screen and choke you a bit, but I have to say you make me think. You know we'll never agree on political issues - yet it's fun to skip back and forth between your blog and E's. The differing points of view are so very American. Thank goodness we don't all the think the same - it would truly be a very dull place to live.


    At 08:21, February 8, 2009, Rubicon said:
    Rubi Dubi Doo? No wonder I like you so much! And...."E" is a nimrod, but I just can't help but like him too!

    Dante.....I cannot imagine how you think, but you're weird. I sometimes think that you don't think things too clearly before you write. I can be supportive of this president, but I don't have to support his policies. And by the way....Finland can have all of the detainees as far as I'm concerned. We know that you'd let 'em all go anyway....because they're all so innocent!!!!!


    At 08:26, February 8, 2009, WelshPixie said:
    Just out of interest, what DO you support about him, if not his policies?


    At 08:31, February 8, 2009, dantesinferno said:
    A friend of mine just said to me, referring to you, that you have your head so far up your ass, you are viewing the world past your tonsils.

    I can imagine that one of the reasons why we're willing to let some prisoners in here, is that we have one of the world's leading treatment facilities for people who have been subject to torture. Oh, sorry, I meant to say, enforced interrigation procedures.

    BTW, does supporting the president while not supporting his policies, include riddiculing him and people who support him openly? I was just wondering, because when we others did it to Bush, you automatically gave us your rendition of the confused gay boy in the pro-Britney Spears video, screaming like somebody actually had just stabed you.

    Michael, you are a liar. And a coward. And a hypocrit. Your life revolves around falsehoods created by others and yourself. You rant and rant at people about what is fair and what is not, yet you are the very incarnate of a man who is willing to go to any low just to voice your opinion.

    For the betterment of humanity, swallow a bullet.


    At 09:07, February 8, 2009, Rubicon said:
    "Michael, you are a liar. And a coward. And a hypocrit. Your life revolves around falsehoods created by others and yourself. You rant and rant at people about what is fair and what is not, yet you are the very incarnate of a man who is willing to go to any low just to voice your opinion."

    So....we're back to name calling are we? The day that I lie about something I'll let you know! What I posted from the Gallop Poll are not my words. And you'll notice that I posted both sides of the coin. Something that my political nemesis has never, ever done while Bush was in office!

    You might want to look up the word "coward" in the dictionary. I think you'll find that I don't fall into that category....do cowards put to print what they believe? And you'll always blow your debate, or argument, (if you will), when you resign yourself to name calling. Also....I seem to recall a PM from you indicating that you didn't want to have these types of debates anymore. Something to the effect that you wanted to be beyond the name calling and such.

    Pixie....try as I might there just doesn't seem to be anything I can find right now to be supportive of this president. I mean, we're in the midst of a horrific recession and this guy wants to spend billions of our money thinking that it will fix things....it won't.
    He's appointing criminals to his cabinet, one of whom I've rightfully pointed out is not only guilty of tax evasion, but one who will be in charge of OUR money! Now I don't pretend to know just how everything works in merry 'ole England, (a land I've been to several times), but wouldn't you be a little antsy with someone like this in your Parliament?

    And in response to some things you said to me over at "E"'s place. I've only just begun where Obama's concerned and pointing out the beginning flaws of his administration. Once he can prove that he's going to follow thru with all of his huge promises of "Change We Can Believe In", then I'll shout for his support. But this is one really rocky start, and no, it's not all Bush's fault. And I would suggest to you and any of my other detractors, look up what some other countries are saying about Barack Obama right now.

    BTW: I do enjoy and appreciate your comments. I guess I'm sorry that they're just coming so late. I'd love to hear more....


    At 09:21, February 8, 2009, WelshPixie said:
    "Now I don't pretend to know just how everything works in merry 'ole England, (a land I've been to several times),"

    Hehehe. Then you'll know that Wales (where I come from, as the name implies) and Scotland (where I'm currently living, though not for much longer) are actually not a part of England? ;p

    "look up what some other countries are saying about Barack Obama right now. "

    Eh... I'm not really interested in what other countries are saying about him. While his actions will inevitably ripple through the world what with him being the president of such a hugely globally important and influential country, the focus of his actions will begin within the USA and will have immediate effect there.

    Considering he's only been in office... two or three weeks? He hasn't had much time to do anything that would have results to show so soon. What I can see him doing is pushing forwards the things he thinks are important (like hurrying this package along), which can't be a bad thing.

    What I'd like to see more of is instead of pointing out his flaws with gay abandon - suggesting fixes. It's one thing to wax vehemently against something - but quite another to suggest viable alternatives. For me, that's what marks the difference between an ignorant ranter and an aware debator.

    "but wouldn't you be a little antsy with someone like this in your Parliament? "

    Parliament has just as much corruption in it as any other wordly govermnent body.



    At 09:29, February 8, 2009, dantesinferno said:
    What makes you a liar, is constantly demanding a certain level of respect towards the president, no matter how one might disagree, then showing absolutely no respect what so ever yourself. What makes you a liar is that you have gone on for years and years about how you would be ready to show respect towards a Democrat in the office, and then resorting to bashing him in one week.

    What makes you a hypocrit is that you have spent the past eight years blaming a lot of Bush's mistakes on Clinton, yet when Bush has been out of office for two weeks and left behind one of the worst crisis... make that crises, you are already at the barricades ready to shoot anyone who says anything about Bush's past mistakes.

    What makes you a coward, and read carefully, cause this may sting a bit, is your neverending faith in the Might Makes Right idealogy. 6000 years of recorded human civilization, and not once has that worked. The source for that line of thinking, is and always shall remain, cowardice.
    It's the "let's get them before they get us" mentaility, the primary source of racism, intolerance and cowardly behaviour. If this was German in the 30's, you would have already joined the party. Because at the core of your being, you are afraid of everything, and when you see the opportunity to gang up on someone else, you leap at it.
    Ironically, when the other side finally pushes back, and they always have, people like you are the first ones shot against a wall.
    That is why you are a coward. Doesn't matter how much you brag about your supposed past as a marine, your willingness to obliterate everyone who you perceive as even the slightest risk to you and yours, is cowardly behaviour at it's very truest form.

    As to that PM while back, that was when I still believed you had a soul. As it is, since then Obama has been elected and you have revealed to everyone what we already knew or suspected. You have no moral dignity. You have no values. You lack even the shred of basic humanity. And that is why, I say this with all and absolute honesty, I hope bad things on you. I hope you get cancer. Because if there is karma, you should beg for the cancer, it's the least thing in store for someone like you.


    At 12:02, February 8, 2009, LauriesAsylum said:
    I hope bad things on you. I hope you get cancer. Because if there is karma, you should beg for the cancer, it's the least thing in store for someone like you.


    Oh, that is soooo mean and hateful.. You should be ashamed of yourself..


    At 12:16, February 8, 2009, dantesinferno said:
    Oddly enough, I'm not. Five years of following this guy take aim at anyone who so much as whispers a bad word at Bush, veiling it all in a patriotic desire to respect the president, while going back on everything he says bit by bit, pretty much makes me feel good about what I said. Joyous, even. Tranquil.
    I understand that pancreatic cancer is particularly nasty.


    At 12:19, February 8, 2009, Aielman said:
    I understand that pancreatic cancer is particularly nasty.

    What a dick.


    At 12:21, February 8, 2009, dantesinferno said:
    Yeah, he is.


    At 02:46, February 8, 2009, DeeJay said:
    Mmmmmm while I don't agree with a lot of Rub's political views, never would I wish something horrific on him or anyone else here.

    Back when I was in college I took a couple of American history classes from a wonderful professor who was black. He once said that while he found organizations like the KKK to be despicable, he would gladly march in a demonstration against anyone trying to ban the KKK from their right to assemble. He respected the Constitution and the fact that it protects all of us - no matter how different our views are.

    His assertion has always stuck with me, and I consider him to be one of the most influential people during my college years. I'm glad I walked away from his class and his life with the ability to be able to live with and among even those I disagree with. It's too bad everyone couldn't have had a class with that professor.


    At 02:51, February 8, 2009, dantesinferno said:
    DeeJay, it is not Rube's views that are in question, I've stomached those for years. It's his twofaced, hypocritical behaviour. He can have any views he wants, it's when he attacks others for their views and makes demands and accusations, but the very moment the tables are reversed, he recants on everything he has said. That, is what I call an act of a cowardly man.


    At 12:12, February 16, 2009, lisalisabobisa said:
    Wow, not even sure what to say about Dante's remark. That was beyond horrible...


    At 12:13, February 25, 2009, Rubicon said:
    Dude.....you need to disappear from my site. If I've been so hard to stomach for so long then why do you keep coming back for the shear torture?

    I won't even lower myself to address the wishing cancer and bad things on me thing. Except to say that you're quite sick....now please go away!


    At 12:30, February 25, 2009, LauriesAsylum said:
    That's what I'm asking myself, why does he come back if it's torture for him?


    At 12:52, February 25, 2009, lisalisabobisa said:
    He likes the torture...he likes the bickering....he thrives on it....that's why.


    At 08:34, February 26, 2009, Rubicon said:
    I think that you definitely cross the lines of decent debate when you seriously wish ill on someone. Especially when you speak of something like cancer which is near and not so dear to the hearts of many.
    It's hard to know if talk like that is really pure hatred or something more psychological. Anyway....if the things I say are so horrible, then I would fully expect that the person(s) would not return to be so offended again.


    At 05:15, February 26, 2009, Aielman said:
    Some people find it so much more fun to wave their e-penis around to show how much of an internet tough guy they are rather than just not visit.


    At 11:39, February 27, 2009, Rubicon said:
    "e-penis".....now that's funny as hell, and damn appropriate in this the case of the internet tough guy!


    At 02:37, February 27, 2009, lisalisabobisa said:
    I agree..........:p





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